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in fact, that's a big lie. that's the big lie that in fact the democrats, hopefully the president and other democrats and maybe even bill clinton at this clinton global initiative, can begin to rebut. it's the most nefarious lie being told right now. and like all lies, if it's repeated often enough without being rebutted, the public starts to believe it. >> thank you for your time tonight. >> thank you, lawrence. >> that's it for "the last word." rachel maddow is up next. we begin tonight with some breaking news in national politics. a sitting united states senator, a republican, the junior senator from the great state of nevada, is resigning. this is a senator who barely a month and a half ago announced he would not be running for re-election next year, but now suddenly comes news that he will leave not in 2013, but in 12 days. this means that nevada's republican governor will appoint
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a replacement for the senator in washington. the man resigning of course is republican senator john ensign. as a candidate for senate, and as a senator, john ensign was a family values republican. he also lived at c street, the pseudo church subsidized boarding house for conservative members of congress run by the secretive religious organization known as "the family." in 1998, john ensign demanded that president clinton resign from office as president because of the monica lewinsky affair. in 2004, john ensign crusaded to amend the u.s. constitution to keep same-sex couples from allowed to be married. quoting him -- >> then after all of that, in 2009, john ensign got caught cheating on his wife. he was shtooping one of his own staffers, who was married to another staffer, all of which was taking place as he was serving as the republican party's senate campaign chairman.
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in the next election, the republicans lost a ton of seats in the senate. when john ensign's affair was outed, the senator cut both of the staffers in the situation loose. he cut loose the one he was shtooping and the one he was married to. both of them had to leave john ensign's employ. but when they did, john ensign's parents cut their family a check for $96,000. his mom and dad did it. they are very wealthy apparently. they own casinos. if that $96,000 was a severance payment to the senator's girlfriend and her husband, that could be construed as illegal. so a lawyer for the ensign family claimed at the time that this $96,000 was really just a
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gift, a gift specifically structured as eight separate $12,000 payments to avoid paying the gift tax. quote, his parents decided to make the gifts out of concern for the well-being of longtime friends during a difficult time. despite that near $100,000 payoff, the husband, whose wife senator ensign was shtooping complained publicly about the senator's behavior, after both husband and wife lost their jobs with john ensign. last month, that same husband was indicted on charges of lobbying illegally. specifically, lobbying senator john ensign illegally. lobbying senator john ensign illegally from a job that senator ensign arranged from him after that whole i have to fire you and your wife because i'm shtooping her thing. but the fbi launched an investigation into the situation after the affair came to light. the justice department launched an investigation. the senate launched an ethics investigation.
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through it all, john ensign never lost the public support of the republican party. but then last month on his own terms, senator ensign announced his retirement. >> as you all know, campaigns are ugly enough today, and this campaign would be exceptionally ugly. and because of that, i don't want to put my family through that. and for these reasons, i will not be seeking re-election in 2012. >> that was barely a month and a half ago. but now unexpectedly, john ensign has decided not to wait until the end of his term. he has all of a sudden decided that he is resigning right now, effective may 3. in a letter to the president of the senate, who of course is vice president biden, a letter that will be delivered tomorrow, he writes this. >> presumably, that excludes the
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>> presumably, that excludes the staff members he was either shtooping or wife he was shtooping. they got their own thank you from mom and dad. last month when he was asked whether that ethics investigation had anything to do with his decision to retire, senator ensign first told reporters this. he said --
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>> i didn't break any of the laws. i didn't do any of those things. resigning would be admitting guilt. >> resigning would be admitting guilt. that's what he said last month. now he's resigning. joining us now is the man who broke the news this evening, columnist for the las vegas sun and host of "face-to-face with john rolston." congratulations on the scoop, and thanks for being here tonight, john. >> nice to be back with you, rachel. >> why is he resigning now? why not six weeks ago when he announced his retirement? >> well, rachel, as i have said many times, his political career was over on june 16, 2009, and you showed some of that video. he seemed to be the only one who did not know that. and he had to be dragged kicking and screaming every step of the way, from the moment he made that announcement.
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you know a lot of people wanted him out of there. it took the ethics committee, and i have just confirmed this right before coming on here, to vote this week secretly as they do to move forward, perhaps with public hearings. and there's still a mountain of evidence. forget what the department of justice said. there's a mountain of evidence that he did a lot of things wrong. and for him to have to sit there in public hearings and then be sanctioned by the ethics committee, obviously it was too much for him. either that, or he was just doing it for his family, rachel. >> well, to be clear, what you have just learned tonight, is that the senate ethics committee was due to vote on whether or not to subject him to charges? is that right? >> they voted, from what i understand, from some very good sources in washington, they voted this week behind closed doors to move forward with public hearings with a mountain of evidence, and there was going to be consideration of some very severe sanctions. usually the ethics committee is derided as being toothless. but i think that after the department of justice dropped this, they were going to move forward.
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i think that ensign thought by making that announcement a month and a half ago that he would stop the ethics committee. well, there's really only one way to stop them, and that's to get out of the senate. >> was ensign under any pressure from the national republican party that he should quit now that, somebody should be given the opportunity to be the incumbent republican senator in nevada come 2012? >> there's no question that republicans here and in washington, d.c., wanted ensign to get out of there so that governor brian sandoval could appoint dean heller, who is now running for that seat to give him the title of senator when he is listening. but ensign has not listened to anyone but the voices in his own head for a long time now, rachel. we know that. so that pressure seemed to be doing nothing. it has taken something at every step of the way to finally nudge him in the right direction. and as you mentioned, rachel, going through those facts, and they never get old. the staggering hypocrisy of this
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man to continue to parade his family out, to evoke his family in that part of statement that you read, it's just incredible. it's as if he has to be pulled back into reality by other people finally. and in this case, it was the senate ethics committee voting. >> john, is there anybody else in contention for this appointment from nevada's governor besides congressman dean heller? is he considered to be a shoo-in for this appointment now? >> i think there are others who would like to get the appointment, rachel. but brian sandoval -- and this is a tight-knit state. he knows heller very well. they're friends. and people close to sandoval are also close to heller. heller is going to be appointed. the real interesting phenomenon here is that there's going to be a special election for heller's seat, and our favorite person, i know one of yours, sharon angle, is going to be involved in that. >> so dean heller currently a member of the house. if he gets appointed to the senate, there has to be a
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special election to fill his seat in congress. now that isn't filled by an appointment. there's got to be some sort of election process in that case. do we know anything about when that election would happen? what the circumstances would be? how much control the party might have over who was able to run for that seat? >> well, we don't know any of those things for sure. and people have been scrambling, even the people in the secretary of state's office are not sure that the statutes are as clear as they should be here. this has never happened before in this state. what is clear is that the governor gets to set the election within a certain time period after he appoints dean heller to the senate seat. but what people have concluded early on, and, rachel, nothing is sure here, is that this could be a free for all where there is no primary for any party, and anybody essentially can essentially file. if that is what happens, that is
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going to be a spectacle unlike any we have seen here, and we have seen a few. >> can you handicap for us the prospects of sharon engel actually getting to go to washington through this process? i mean, as you said, we still don't know by what means exactly this seat is going to be filled. but if there is a free for all, how would that vote for sharon engel's chances versus the other means by which this election might be arranged? >> yeah. if it went to the party nominating committees, which is another possibility, although i can't find that in the statute that seems to applicable here, although there's another statute that talks about that, there's no chance she would get through the party's nominating committees. but in a free for all, she still does have a base of people that would die for sharon engel. the really interesting aspect here, rachel, is if a bunch of republicans get in, this is a traditionally republican seat, no democrat has ever held it since it was formed in 1981. then a democrat who has run there before like jill derby who came close to beating dean heller a couple of times against a bunch of republicans, you're not going to need that high of a percentage of votes to win. again, all of the caveats apply here.
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i'm not sure how that works. but the democrats will have a shot at taking that seat. >> john rolston, the guy left to explain to the nation what the h-e double hockey sticks is going on in nevada politics which we couldn't do without you, john. thank you for joining us. >> thanks, rachel. the breaking news tonight, john ensign steps down unexpectedly, one year, 10 months, and five days after first admitting to an extramarital affair with an employee, which started a whole cascade of further difficult revelations for the family values senator. john rolston just reporting moments ago that the senator's resignation follows a vote behind doors that would have subjected john ensign to hearings on those ethics charges that he had been facing for many, many months in the senate. again, nevada's republican governor will be appointing a temporary replacement for senator ensign.
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it is likely to be dean heller. that may give the republican party a leg up on holding on to that senate seat in next year's elections, and i hope you will forgive me for just saying leg up. i didn't mean it like that. we'll be right back. re right underneath our feet, and all we need to do is change the way we're thinking about them. a couple decades ago, we didn't even realize just how much natural gas was trapped in rocks thousands of feet below us. technology has made it possible to safely unlock this cleanly burning natural gas. this deposits can provide us with fuel for a hundred years, providing energy security and economic growth all across this country. it just takes somebody having the idea, and that's where the discovery comes from.
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luke franye. he was inside the building when the bomb went off. he lived and was able to crawl out of the rubble and later testified at timothy mcveigh's trial. mr. franye still works for the atf, and today was their representative at a press conference for another attempted bombing which was unsuccessful. that incident, however, is now prompting questions about whether it may have been a politically motivated act. yesterday afternoon, employees discovered a small fire at the littleton mall that had broken out near the food court. when firefighters extinguished the blaze, they found an unexploded pipe bomb and two propane tanks at site of the fire. it's still unclear whether the fire was intended to detonate the explosives, but they did not go off, thankfully. the mall was evacuated as bomb squads were brought in. today the fbi released this photo of a man they are calling a person of interest in the case. he was spotted on this surveillance tape inside the mall near where the explosives were discovered. part of the reason this plot is
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attracting national attention tonight is because of some coincidences and similarities between this incident and other mass casualty or attempted mass casualty attacks in the united states. this pipe bomb in colorado today was discovered 12 years to the day after the worst high school gun massacre in u.s. history. the attacks at columbine high school. the shopping mall where the bomb was found yesterday is less than two miles from columbine high school. while all of the victims of that massacre were killed by gun fire, authorities at columbine did discover a propane tank in the school's cafeteria with unexploded pipe bombs attached to it. whether or not this incident is linked to columbine or any anniversary or anything else of any symbolic significance, this attempted bombing also comes relatively closely on the heels of the attempted bombing on martin luther king day this past january in spokane, washington. police there found a backpack bomb along a parade route that was rigged to explode. it never did. authorities have a suspect in
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custody in that case. yesterday's incident in colorado also comes less than a year after the attempted bombing in times square by a pakistani american named fiez el shaz add. he pled guilty and was sentenced to life in prison. tonight the pipe bomb and the propane tanks involved in this latest attempted bombing in colorado are heading to the fbi lab in quantico, virginia, while the authorities search for their person of interest. joining us from the scene is nbc news correspondent miguel armagara. appreciate your time. >> sure, rachel. no problem. >> i understand that authorities say they do have a person of interest in this case. what can you tell us about what they know about him? >> first, we should point out that person of interest has not been named a suspect, and authorities have made that clear.
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nonetheless, they have released three photos. the last released just a few hours ago shows the suspect coming up -- or excuse me, the person of interest coming up an escalator, wearing a striped shirt. has on a hat and is holding a plastic bag. it's pretty similar to the other two photos released just a few hours before that late wednesday evening. investigators say this is maybe their best lead to who this person of interest may be. he hasn't been named a suspect because investigators say he simply came in and exited the mall through an unusual entrance, one that the public didn't take often, and so for that reason, they want to talk to him, rachel. so they have named him a person of interest and are circulating his photo hoping that will generate some leads. and although the photo has been available for about 24 hours now, still no identification of that man. >> in terms of the physical evidence here and what firefighters discovered when they responded to that fire, has there been anything significant learned about the pipe bomb or the propane tanks or anything
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else that might indicate i guess the severity of a potential explosion had this thing worked as intended? >> well, investigators are keeping most of the details close to the vest. they don't want to release too much information, because they are still looking for eyewitnesss to step forward, and they said they don't want to give out too much information to steer witnesses in one direction or the other. we do know that that fire broke out at the mall behind me at around 11:30 in the afternoon. firefighters quickly put it out. it was a small fire. and they quickly realized they were dealing with some suspicious devices. they first recognized two propane tanks and then realized that there was a pipe bomb. that pipe bomb apparently fell apart relatively quickly. investigators didn't have to detonate it, and they said there was no chance it was going to explode. they believed that the two propane tanks were actually bought at a nearby target that actually shares the same parking lot with this mall here just across the way, just out of camera sight here. so they say at this point, at least a local affiliate is reporting that investigators
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believe that those propane tanks were bought just a few hundred yards away from the mall behind me, rachel. >> miguel, one of the reasons that this has attracted some national concern and interest is because this of course took place on the 12th anniversary of the columbine massacre, very near to where the columbine massacre happened. >> there certainly is heightened concern. all of the local schools went into lockdown. and today this afternoon, a gentleman had walked into a local elementary school to apparently use the rest room. school officials didn't recognize this man and immediately put the school on lockdown, which means no one can enter or exit the building, and that lockout spread to the entire school district. it's a clear sign that the school district and many other officials are taking the threats here very seriously. some of this community a little bit concerned about the incident that happened here yesterday and whether it could be connected to the columbine anniversary.
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so certainly some people with frayed nerves. >> miguel, thanks for helping us understand this. appreciate it. >> my pleasure. still ahead -- the wisconsin recall battles where ladies drink free. did you hear about this today? the audio is astonishing. it's coming up. ♪ [ male announcer ] in 2011, at&t is at work, building up our wireless network all across america. we're adding new cell sites... increasing network capacity... and making a substantial investment to improve your wireless network experience. from a single phone call to the most advanced data download, we're covering more people in more places than ever before in an effort to give you the best network possible. at&t. rethink possible.
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when last we checked in on the great republican overreach
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of 2011, which was last night, because this is what american red versus blue politics is all about now, when last we checked in on the great state of wisconsin and the fury over governor scott walker and the republicans' union-stripping efforts there, we report last night that groups opposed to what the governor and the republicans had done had turned in petitions to put the recall of four of wisconsin's republican state senators on the ballot. those four districts, those four senate districts, are shown here. in terms of a map that they are on, the bluer the map here, the more that district shifted toward the democrat side in last month's special statewide election as compared with how that district voted back in november. all those districts as you can see pretty darn blue. update today, one more republican state senator facing a recall. if the number of signatures turned in proves adequate to cut the mustard. that would be senator alberta darling in the eighth district, which is just down there in the lower right, just north of milwaukee. but the more exciting
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development today is that now it is not just republican senators facing potential recalls. now finally after promising it for a long time, republicans and conservative groups have turned in signatures to try to recall democratic state senators, three of them, all democrats, all of whom will be on the ballot in districts that, as you can see here, are voting even bluer than they were before since november. so to be honest, there's not exactly panic on the democratic side of the great wisconsin senate recall fight of 2011. in fact, the democrats are crowing about how the fact that the recall effort against them doesn't really demonstrate any anti-democratic feeling in the state. they say that they paid out of state signature gatherers. but then there's the booze thing. ought audio was posted today documenting another one of the democrats' claims that recall
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petitions against the democratic senators remember collected in part by people who offered free shots of booze to people who would sign the petition against the democrats. there's audio. listen. is that legal? apparently, maybe? but regardless, wisconsin state democrats say if you're having to pay people with liquor to sign your recall petitions, maybe that does not reflect an organic political enthusiasm for that recall cause. who knows if the democrats are right in their confidence here. the proof will be in the pudding when the state tries to verify
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on february 23rd on this program, we reported on a death threat that had been sent to the doctor in south central kansas who was trying to become the first abortion provider that part of the country since dr. george tiller was murdered by an anti-abortion extremist in 2009. the death threat said in part -- if dr. tiller could speak from hell, he would tell you what a soulless existence you are purposefully considering all in the name of greed. thousands of people are looking into your background. they will know your habits, where you live. you will be checking under your car every day because maybe today is the day someone places an explosive under it. we will not let this abomination continue without doing everything we can to stop it. after that death threat became public, the federal department of justice announced two weeks ago they filed a civil complaint against the woman who wrote the threat and sent it to the doctor.
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the first step legally was that the justice department asked the federal judge for a preliminary order to keep the woman who sent the threat away from the doctor she threatened to keep a physical distance between them. the hearing on that request just happened this week. i'll tell you what was decided at the hearing in just one moment. but one of the amazing things about the radical and violent or at least pro violence anti-abortion movement ending up back in court again because of another threat to another doctor is that them being in court has the effect of shining a light on who they are. and in this specific case, it has shined a light on the connections between these people, this network of people, who commit politically motivated murder or who attempt to do that, or who promote doing that. it really is a movement. these folks know each other. they are not alone. and here's how that looks this week, with this federal court case. the anti-abortion activist accused of writing the threatening letter is named angel dillard. she did not deny writing the
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letter. her attorney was a man named donald mckinney. he participated in the summer of mercy protests against dr. tiller in 1991. do you remember kansas's radical anti-abortion attorney general phil klein? he is in ethics charges over the way he pursued charges against dr. tiller. as one of phil klein's final and most controversial acts as attorney general, he hired the same lawyer, don mckinney, to be a special prosecutor specifically to go after tiller. the same doctor who that lawyer had protested against back in the day. mr. mckinney, again that's him on the left there, mr. mckinney was controversial not just for having protested against dr. tiller at the summer of mercy. he was controversial, and it was a controversial thing for phil klein to make him a prosecutor because he had hosted as a house
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guest on the occasion of the 10th anniversary of those protests a member of the army of god. this man. someone who had signed the defensive action statements put out by the army of god, the statements that demand the murder of abortion providers and declare them morally justified. you can still see those kill a doctor for christ manifestos online in the dark corners of the abortion internet where all the people who have murdered doctors have tribute pages to them and are celebrated as heroes. the first time dr. tiller was almost killed he was shot by this woman. the army of god guy specifically praised shelley shannon and her attempt on dr. tiller's life, calling her a hero. well, shelley shannon was in prison for shooting and trying to kill dr. tiller. one of her frequent prison visitors was scott roder. during the time that scott roder was visiting shelley shannon in prison, he too came to think of
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himself as a member of the army of god, and it was scott roder who after protesting against dr. tiller and abortion for years and after corresponding frequently with the woman who worked at operation rescue in kansas who had once been convicted of conspiring to bomb a clinic, it was scott roder, army of god, right, who finally did what the army of god urges people to do and calls justified. scott roder in 2009 finally killed dr. tiller. shot him to death in dr. tiller's church. even though i knew all of that before, here's the reason i did not sleep last night. since scott roder has been imprisoned for murdering dr. tiller, someone who has contacted him enough to have struck up a jailhouse friendship with him is the author of our death threat, angel dillard. after dr. tiller's murder, angel tiller said this to the associated press about scott roder and what he did.
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while shelley shannon is in jail, scott roeder makes friends with her and decides she was on to something and eventually goes on to murder dr. tiller himself. then when scott roeder is in prison for that, angel dillard makes friends with him in jail, and she says she admires what roeder did in murdering a doctor for providing abortions. and then she sends a letter to the new doctor who would take dr. tiller's place, as south central kansas's next abortion provider. she sends a letter that directly references dr. tiller who has already been killed and tells the new doctor, someone will put a bomb under your car one day, and then goes on to say, we will
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not let this abomination continue without doing everything we can to stop it. when lawyers for the justice department asked a federal just in wichita this week to issue a preliminary order to keep this woman who wrote this threat away from this doctor, this woman who befriended dr. tiller's murderer and said she admired him for doing it, and then wrote to the doctor who would replace dr. hiller saying there would be explosives under his car someday, the judge said no. the judge said, and i quote, i don't think this letter constitutes a true threat. joining us now is kathryn spiller. thank you very much for joining us. i appreciate your time. >> thank you. >> i know that you know the facts of this case very well. is anything that i said about that strike you as confused or wrong or did i lay it out in the way that you understand it? >> i think you laid it out perfectly. perfectly. which is why the judge's decision yesterday in this case is so baffling to us. it was such a clear violation of
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face, the freedom of access to clinic entrances act, to have made this threat, and yet the judge did not see it as a true threat. >> the woman who wrote this death threat, her attorney argued at the hearing that it wasn't directly a threat that angel dillard would kill the doctor. he described it as a warning to the doctor that other people might kill her. a, does that make sense to you, and, b, how would something like that be handled under the fa c.e. law, the federal law that applies here? >> well, she used the word "we." we will not tolerate this abomination, we will do everything feasible to stop you. clearly, she put herself in that camp. and the way that you evaluate a true threat under f.a.c.e. is very clear. congress laid it out succinctly. it is how the threat is perceived by the person who receives the threat. is the language clear in the threat? and, rachel, you have read parts of the letter. i think anyone would reasonably
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understand what was meant by those words, about a bomb under a car, about we know where you live. the second part of that is the context in which the letter was received or the threat was made. and clearly, in wichita, the context is very certain. dr. tiller was murdered less than two years ago, by many -- by an individual who this person has been in touch with, at the network of extremists has said that we're going to keep wichita abortion free, and they clearly are willing to use a bullet to do that. but it's interesting. under the f.a.c.e. law, this context is very important, but the department of justice doesn't even have to prove that this individual has the ability to carry out the threat. it is simply that the threat was made with the intent of intimidating dr. means. and dr. means was clearly intimidated by this threat. >> this was a preliminary decision by this judge. we do not know how this judge is
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going to rule in this case ultimately. we don't know how this case is going to play out. but broadly speaking, as somebody who's been involved in this field are a long time and studied a lot of the radical edge of this movement, how important do you think it is for the department of justice to have brought this case? >> oh, it's critically important. the extremists must know that their every action is being scrutinized, and that when the department of justice and the u.s. attorney believe that a threat has been made or an illegal act has been committed, that they will be prosecuted to the extent of the law. we're very hopeful obviously that this decision will ultimately be repealed or that in the further hearings for a permanent injunction that a permanent injunction will indeed be issued. there's just no question. even in the judge's mind, he said that dillard clearly meant to intimidate dr. means. so we applaud the department of justice for taking these cases. we think that ultimately they will prevail.
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and that indeed these kinds of threes won't be tolerated. what worries us, rachel, is that in the interim the extremists will look at this decision and be emboldened by it, and will get even more extreme in some of the threats that they're making. and doctors everywhere across this country already are facing intolerable levels of threats and violence. so we do hope that on further hearing that we'll reach a different decision. >> kathy, to that point, i mentioned this in the introduction, what made me not sleep about this is feeling like i am seeing a pattern here. it feels like there is a scary pattern here. and i know that feminist majority foundation does a lot of work studying, as i said, the sort of violent edge of the radical anti-abortion movement. is this the pattern that you see among people who are moved ultimately beyond extremism to violent extremism? that they get in touch with people who have committed violent acts, that they lionize that acts, that they start to think of themselves as part of a movement that promotes violence?
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>> there has not been a single murder of a doctor in this country by an individual who was a lone wolf. in every single case, the person who actually committed the murder has been an active participant in a network of extremists who promote the murder of doctors, who advocate the murder of doctors, who many of them themselves have committed violence, and the interesting thing too, rachel, is that many of those who go on to murder start with threats. or they start with gluing the locks of clinics or they start with simple acts of vandalism. so to interrupt this pattern of ultimately leading to violence is what is so critical about the department of justice action. >> kathryn spillar, thank you very much for helping us to understand this tonight. i really appreciate it. >> thank you. if you are a regular viewer of the show, realtime with bill maher, then you saw michael steele and our own beloved ed
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i'm going to tell you this thing exists and as i describe it you are not going to believe me that it exists like low carb bread or tasty vodka but i am going to prove it so bear with me. italian prime minister silvio berlusconi is facing two kinds of criminal charges right now, first fraud charges related to his giant business empire. the second set of charges are for child prostitution. allegations that he paid for sex with an under age prostitute. last week the prime minister did admit to giving the girl the equivalent of $87,000 but said in his defense that it was to save the girl from a life of prostitution.
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not to pay for that prostitution himself. that is the situation with mr. berlusconi. here in the u.s. a conservative family values congressman has just done a spoken word pseudo music video thing. in this music video thing the conservative congressman expresses admiration for mr. berlusconi and says he hopes the prime minister is not brought down by these charges. again the charges are that a 74-year-old man paid to have sex with an under age girl. stay with me here. while republican congressman thaddaeus mccotter is saying he hopes mr. berlusconi is not brought down by these child prostitution charges, the congressman is playing a guitar. specifically he is playing the refrain from the rolling stones song "satisfaction" while he laughs that it's clear mr. berlusconi got his satisfaction with the child prostitute i guess. is this true? does this really exist? yes. this really exists. talking points memo posted this today after it went up at the conservative website human events a few days ago.
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>> there's a lot of talk going now with the berlusconi trial coming up, you know, a great ally of the u.s. be a shame to see such an ardent supporter of the democratic processing down in flames. what are your thoughts? >> i can't play that because evidently he's found satisfaction by all accounts but we would hope that as an ally of the united states, someone who has been very emotional about his love for the united states, that such a fine leader is not undone by a scandal such as this. >> this is apparently a themed series with congressman mccotter. the theme is like jamming to the news. it's not always about hoping those child prostitution charges don't stick. there's also this one where the interviewer in the yellow tie and cuffed dockers asks the question about libya. while again mr. mccotter is playing his air brushed american flag guitar. >> thaddaeus mccotter hanging out in his office, you know, there is a lot of talk about libya right now.
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what do you think? >> this is apparently the video. he gets asked about libya. libya over the guitar playing during the question then mr. mccotter stops playing the guitar in order to answer the question so it's like the bridge in the song sort of. you know there's a lot of talk about libya right now. what do you think? >> in all seriousness with mr. gadhafi. >> he says what he thinks about libya while not playing the guitar and at the end he starts playing the guitar again. watch this part. >> i would hope that the clarity next time would be applied before-hand so we're not searching for clarity during the military mission. ♪ >> this exists. i did not make this up. and silvio berlusconi got his satisfaction. i assume this means that republican congressman thaddaeus mccotter is not running for re-election next year. that's what i assume. it's the only way i can make sense of this. but stand by.
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how is everyone doing on this fine monday? >> i am all right. a little exhausted. i didn't sleep much this weekend. good morning, sarg. i am doing great. let's gather up and go over the information on the repeal of don't ask don't tell that the first sergeant and commander put out last friday. >> great idea. let's waste more time discussing this subject that i have no interest in. >> hey, this also exists. avatars can do finger quotes. this appears to be a military training video, really super embarrassing military training video about the implementation of the repeal of don't ask don't
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tell. we have been looking into what explains this video for the last few days because we were contacted by soldiers who were under the impression this video is how the army really is going to implement repeal. by making soldiers watch stuff like this. >> i know for some of you this will be a large hurdle to overcome. however, it is army policy. i want to know what you guys are thinking. this goes against the way i was raised. no offense toward homosexuals. i just don't think that it's right. >> see, it's the fake avatar station commander meeting with fake avatar staff sergeant tolerance and also fake avatar sergeant nontolerant. >> sergeant n.t. do you know how ignorant you sound? >> hey, that's enough. that is why we are here. i wanted to know how you all feel about this new policy.
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as of today the army no longer wants us to be interested in each other's sexual orientation. the army doesn't care as long as you perform your job in the highly professional military manner. >> i am onboard with this policy. i knew a guy that was discharged for being gay. he was a good soldier. like you said, it is all about being professional. >> oh, sergeant nontolerant why can't you be more like staff sergeant tolerant? it is true this training video is online at a real army website but if you are one of the soldiers who contacted us who is worried the u.s. army is hanging its hopes on making soldiers watch this thing you can relax. after a couple days of digging with the help of amazing, wonderful nbc news pentagon producer courtney kubie we figured out that yes this video is real and was really created by someone in the army for the army's use but the army didn't accept it.


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